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<p>Almost ten years ago now, I spoke at a symposium organized by the National Academy of Sciences, India, at Allahabad (appended). A few months later, the Economic and Political Weekly published it in the form of a commentary (Economic and Political Weekly, Vol. 36, No. 17 (Apr. 28 - May 4, 2001), pp. 1372-1375). The title speaks for itself, I think; - ‘Opportunities for science careers in India: an invitation to the mad hatter’s tea party’. I wrote, inevitably, out of my then-decade-long experience with the life sciences in India, but I did think that it applied, pretty much, to most Indian science careers.</p><p>Should I leave it at that? Much water has flowed under the bridge in the decade since, and maybe, just maybe, some things have changed? So here is a worm’s–eye view of the update; – this time, a more jaundicedly life-science-centric one. </p><p>I had identified three major sectors that offered (or seemed to offer) careers in science. A science career in the private sector, I thought then, was unpromising, given that it was in a minor appendage of a sector that depended on generics and imports for its modest profits. I had also thought that this would change significantly only if the sector itself became globally competitive. Today, it is certainly true that there is a small group of companies that are trying hard to become globally competitive in, if not quite novel biotech-pharma products, then at least novel generics/similars. These companies seem to be seeing value in somewhat less embarrassing R&amp;D than was the case ten years ago, and therefore, some interesting jobs and careers can be had there. However, these numbers are exceedingly small (so small that one hesitates to call it a ‘sector’), and the ongoing recession does not bode well for any major expansion in the immediate future. </p><p>The second sector for a science career, I said ten years ago, was the universities. Except that there were no jobs in the universities, those that did open up went altruistically/nepotistically to people who had been desperately waiting for them while teaching as temps on a pittance, even if you got a job, research infrastructure did not exist intramurally and extramural funding agencies were notoriously unreliable in the steadiness of their support, and much of your time was spent in teaching masters’ level courses below par. Has this changed? Not for the universities that were representative back then; - they remain in the same situation (perhaps worse?). But today, there are some universities (mostly the ‘central’ ones) that have attempted pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, at least half-heartedly. (And yes, this does frequently generate a reality as comical the image.) There are also ‘new’ universities and related species of teaching-research institutions planned, as part of a great new wave of enhancing human resource development capabilities, in which much is promised. However, there are so far no signs of any widespread processes that will avoid the problems I worried over ten years ago, so I shall stay firmly gloomy on this score. </p><p>The only real exceptions to my gloom about teaching-and-research institutions are the so-called IISERs, where there are, I think, faculty openings that are truly promising. However, the IISERs (and the NISER!) walk and quack like the national laboratories/institutions that constitute my third sector, and therefore I shall treat them as belonging to that category. </p><p>The third sector of science careers in India has always been the national institutions. Here, there have indeed been changes over the past decade. The gurukul nepotism for faculty jobs in such places has receded substantially. In fact, the situation now is that it is hard to get an offer from a national institution if you do not have ‘major’ prestigious-impact publications (meaning Cell, Science, Nature et cetera). Secondly, there are many more faculty positions that are being advertised internationally, in part because the funding levels for such activities have undergone modest-but-real enhancements over the past decade, and in part because the receding of gurukuls means that candidates have to be ‘searched’ for, rather than being available on the sidelines. Thirdly, the nature of funding and evaluation of science has undergone, again, a modest-but-real change in the past decade. The Indian science enterprise has sort-of realised that doing mediocre work on ‘areas of national importance’ does not actually help the nation. Therefore, while the spectre of these ‘strategic areas’ has not gone away, it is now relegated to its proper position in the evaluation of both faculty and projects, which is AFTER the primary criterion of excellence. The national institutions are now also thinking (creakingly slowly, but still) about the value of teaching for research, about the value of global connectivities, and about the value of organically grown and conceptually driven teamwork (as opposed to diktat-created teams dedicated to mutual blame).</p><p>As a result, an interesting situation has developed. If someone is outstanding in their field (be it ever so esoteric), it is now possible for them to get a faculty position in a national research institution where a research group can be started up in real time, where interesting teaching possibilities can be created, where respectable funding can be obtained, and where little research dreams can be somewhat meaningfully pursued. </p><p>It is of course possible to argue, sceptically, that for someone who has prestige-impact papers from their post-doctoral work, all of this is available in spades in the ‘First World’ (although the recession may somewhat dim the lustre of that argument for a while). So the question now, a decade later, that I tend to think over is; - is there anything in an Indian research career that is NOT easily found elsewhere? </p><p>I think there is. </p><p>Here is why and what. </p><p>I had written a decade ago that there was an advantage in this awful mess, from the point of view of competent investigators who simply want to get some money to ask their research questions. I had said that competence was such a casualty in this scenario that if you wrote a merely competent project proposal, it was almost guaranteed to get funded simply because it would be unusual in sounding as though you knew what you are talking about. Curiously, while the ambience of research in the national institutions has changed, this has not. Thus, it is possible, currently, to write, not merely competent, but high-risk and unusual and daring research proposals, and to have them looked at with enthusiasm (rather than the dampening stodginess of, say, the US NIH funding system). It is possible to work far more collegially, both with colleagues within the discipline and with collaborators across disciplines, without worrying, for the moment, about the dread issue of ‘credit’, because reasonably good work is so rare still that anyone doing it is recognized with relatively less carping about authorship positions. </p><p>When two decades ago I chose, with friends and colleagues, to work in this fashion; - to ask questions that we found interesting and could think of ways to address, to do so as a group of like-minded immunologists working together instead of competing, and to look for collaborators globally to be friends and valued colleagues; - there were worried voices that said that this would be a personal disaster for me. It has not been that, despite the practical limitations that are self-evident even now. </p><p>But now, with some easing of those limitations, a completely new set of possibilities has opened up, uniquely, in India. It is possible, for the next decade or so, for life scientists in India (and maybe all scientists) to make a choice. We can use our growing ease of circumstance to go the way that our friends and colleagues in the ‘First World’ have gone and continue to go, more or less. We can set up a competitive system of individual credit-driven choices of research programmes, and reassure ourselves that this market-driven model ensures ‘quality’ research. Or we can abandon this patent-style model of scientific research, use the maneuvering space we have at the moment, to reinvent ourselves, our perspectives and our processes, and work as collegial groups that synergise mutually and that use India’s unique local situation; - the diversity in human populations and their health, the diversity of ecosystems; - to ask system-wide questions that will open up new levels of fundamental biological understanding. </p><p>It is up to us to make a choice. That is always an uncomfortable position to be in. </p>
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                <p>At one point I thought of myself as a scientist who also happened to be a woman. At the end of four long-gestation projects that ran crazily overlapping with each other, two resulting in boys now aged 4 and 7, and the other two resulting in publications in Science and Nature Neuroscience, its very clear that I've traveled a road only “women scientists” get to navigate.<br /></p>              ]]></summary><id>tag:indiabioscience.org,2009-10-09:/columns/opinion/scientist-and-mommy</id><published>2009-10-09T00:00:00+05:30</published><updated>2019-05-09T21:57:29+05:30</updated><author><name>Shubha Tole</name><uri>https://indiabioscience.org/authors/ShubhaTole</uri></author><content type="html"><![CDATA[
                


          
    

<p>At one point I thought of myself as a scientist who also happened to be a woman. At the end of four long-gestation projects that ran crazily overlapping with each other, two resulting in boys now aged 4 and 7, and the other two resulting in publications in Science and Nature Neuroscience, its very clear that I've traveled a road only “women scientists” get to navigate. Among my colleagues in this roller-coaster journey were 3 outstanding women scientists: postdocs Vishakha Mangale and Nandini Gokulchandran, who joined my lab out of interest in my work, but also because they needed to be in Mumbai for 2-career reasons, and PhD student Lakshmi Subramanian, who wanted to remain close to home for family reasons. This story will highlight the many facets of a uniquely Indian support system that made it possible for me to juggle the jobs of scientist and mommy, the bumpy road to setting up a lab in India, and a fundamental scientific discovery we were privileged to make together.</p><p><br />There is no single starting point to this story, but as is often the case, many intertwined strands. My own part in this story began when I returned to TIFR, Mumbai after 11 years of PhD and postdoc in the US (Caltech and University of Chicago respectively), motivated by a desire to contribute to Indian science, to help shape improvements in the education system, and to bring science to the public. Of course, I was terrified at the prospect of setting up in a system I knew nothing of, having done all of my training in the US. Yet there was a good measure of idealism and determination- if I didn’t succeed, it wouldn’t be for lack of trying everything I could. I began my lab in 1999, with a couple of MSc students, and we had our first publication submitted in 2000. The following year, an unusual student joined my lab. Lakshmi, a Microbiology graduate, applied successfully to our highly competitive graduate program, and proceeded to “interview” me for the job of her advisor before she accepted (!). She was to display this same independence in her research, and make a seminal contribution that drew upon her expertise in understanding the development of the hippocampus, a structure critical for learning and memory. <br /><br />I had written a couple of ambitious proposals, first for a Wellcome Trust Senior Fellowship just before starting my lab, and a few years later, a DST Swarnajayanti Fellowship, both of which got funded. The aim was to create a chimeric brain in which wildtype and Lhx2 null cells would be intermingled, to test for a cell autonomous role for Lhx2 in the development of the cerebral cortex. Two postdocs, Nandini and Vishakha, took on different aspects of this challenging project. Nandini, an MD who wanted to work with stem cells and displayed seemingly unlimited amounts of energy and resilience in a tricky project- she derived Lhx2-/- ES cells from matings of +/- mice. Finally there was Vishakha, with an intuition that allowed her to see far down the road in terms of her project, an uncanny ability to make good decisions each step of the way, one of which was spending several months in another lab in Hyderabad to bring back a key technique (ES cell-morula aggregations) that nucleated what we called the “chimera project”. A young student Satyaki Prasad joined our Master’s program, and a postdoc Ben Martynoga from the UK joined us in 2006 and brought in the entire range of transplantation and surgical skills required to produce Chimeras. But this is getting ahead of the story. <br /><br />Our Institute had no transgenic facility for a project of this nature. So from 2005, my lab members presented a series of work seminars at a Friday departmental forum to make the case that we really did have everything together in terms of the technique (successful proof of principle experiments Vishakha performed at our colleague’s lab in Hyderabad) and the background to start this off. My faculty colleagues were fantastically supportive, and emptied out an underused electrophysiology room that we were allowed to renovate to create a tissue culture room for the chimeric blastocysts, with an anteroom for the transplantation surgeries. A couple of years of heroic efforts at chimera making, after which we began to see the first results…..and we were amazed at a double bonus: not only was Lhx2 a fundamental player in creating the cerebral cortex, but also, we were able to establish the identity of an organizing center for the hippocampus. We had actually created a mouse embryo with 7 hippocampi instead of the normal 2! We reported these findings in Science (January 2008)<br /><br />This high point came after a bumpy few years getting things off the ground. I was 32 years old when I started my lab, and starting a family was something my husband and I wanted to do sooner rather than later. One look at the uphill task of setting up the first vertebrate lab at my Institute, and I panicked: I could only grow one thing at a time! By the time I was pregnant with my first son, Abhay, at 35, our small animal house could no longer meet the needs of the two labs in the department that used rodents for their work. We requested permission to build an annex, and I remember waddling all over the proposed site with the engineer, marking the boundaries of the structure. My lab had its first publication, and the next two were written and submitted during the generous maternity leave my Institute allows- 4 months, during which teams of students would visit me at home, and I would look at the data and write in between the competing demands of training the new nanny, setting up baby things, reorganizing the apartment. Three years later, I had my second son Nikhil at 38, by which time my lab was used to my middle-of-the-night emails that I’d send because Nikhil would wake me up at 3 am and I couldn’t sleep right away! In fact, this particular 3 am slot worked beautifully for corresponding with our collaborator in California when writing our Science paper - it’s a good bet that Nikhil saved us a month of manuscript preparation time because I could respond to my collaborator’s emails the same day he sent them instead of a 12 hour delay. We even mentioned this important contribution in the acknowledgements, by thanking Nikhil for “timely assistance in manuscript preparation” (!).<br /><br />As every woman knows who’s doubled as scientist and mommy, there simply isn’t enough time to do it all…we were fortunate in many ways. First, my husband Sandip, also a scientist (a theoretical physicist at the same Institute I work at) took on his fair share of the workload, so that I could slip off to the lab after dinner, or sleep late into the mornings after a series of middle of the night feedings. I could also travel to meetings as soon as my kids switched to bottle feeding. It simply doesn’t “do” to be out of circulation for too long…. which brings me to two awesome women without whom I could simply not have juggled it all.<br /><br />My dear aunt Ushamavashi, wonderful granny and retired doctor, who moved in with us for a few months when I had each of my sons, to provide support, advice, and babycare, who always had a calm assessment of every situation and kept us from panicking at every minor fever or rash or tummyache. I have had many treasured conversations, and learned many Marathi lullabys…and she would also take a genuine interest in my work, and periodically ask me how one or another student’s paper was doing, and I would share with her some of the excitement or frustration or some little detail that we were trying to fix. Even today the kids- and I- look forward to her visits and she holds a special place in our lives and hearts.<br /><br /><br />And finally, there is our kids’ nanny, Rajkumari, genuinely loving, utterly reliable, and resolutely loyal. Perhaps the most amazing part of this story is that Rajkumari comes from a family that observes very traditional rules for women, requiring them to cover their faces behind a “ghungat” in the presence of men, and does not permit them to work outside the home. Rajkumari never went to school. This only served to fuel her determination that her two daughters should not have to grow up illiterate as she did- she wanted to earn so that she could send them to school. So she braved the ire of her in-laws and husband and broke the rule about being house-bound, to take up a job- the only one she was qualified for being that of a domestic helper or nanny. I paid her well enough to make it worth her while, considerably more than going rates for such a job- but Rajkumari turned out to be invaluable- or at the very least, worth her weight in gold. Barely a sick day or two each year, and she loved my kids as if they were her own- she would call on her day off just to speak to them because she missed them so much! She determinedly learned everything I trained her to do, from sterilizing bottles to preparing the baby for an outing, organizing snacks, schedules, shopping for small necessities as needed. As the kids grew, she also doubled as a housekeeper, managing household expenses, groceries, laundry, and other household chores. Rajkumari quickly learned how to pack the “doctor’s bag” to meet us at the car for a doctor’s visit, to dispense medication in the middle of the day if required, and how to keep us informed via phone updates. Because of her, I could begin to travel to meetings, or work straight through a long day without worrying about school pickups or snacks or the myriad little things that need doing when there are young kids at home. Without her I would’ve not only stressed about everything – an unavoidable feature of mommydom- but I would’ve had to parallel so many tasks that my science would’ve suffered.</p><p>Another fortunate turn of events occurred just after Abhay was born. A new government regulation required all Institutions to provide childcare- and so our new Child Care Center (CCC) was set up just in time for both my kids to spend a few hours a day there to play with friends, do activities with the wonderfully creative teachers, or just play about in a different environment from home. I served on the Executive Committee of the CCC for its first 6 years, as did several other colleagues and friends, helping to plan everything from teacher/helper interviews, workday schedules, menus, services, even shopping for toys, putting in place medical emergency procedures….. Our collective efforts paid off, and our CCC has now become more than a daycare center- it’s a social center, organizing cultural programs, taking charge of ferrying the children to their evening activities (music, gymnastics, soccer, kathak- all available within our campus itself)- and even provides Saturday childcare. Both my kids wait for Saturdays when they can spend at least half the day at the CCC because that’s where all their friends are! Saturday afternoons are when my husband and I have a weekly “lunch date” by ourselves, since our kids are only too happy to eat at the CCC… the center’s hot lunches and delicious snacks- cuisine from all over India- are part of the attraction. And it’s all at affordable rates, so we could keep the nanny on full time as a housekeeper and send first the older, then both sons to the CCC for a part of the day as they grew.<br /><br />Does all this wonderful support help or add to the guilt that every working mother seems to bear as part of the job? I like to think it has allowed me to manage my professional responsibilities and yet keep the best parts of being a mommy for myself. For example, thanks to Rajkumari, we didn’t have to do laundry or fold clothes- but the joy of bathing the kids every evening and letting them splash us, then chasing a wet, shrieking, giggling toddler around the bedroom to persuade him to towel off- all mine or Sandip’s! We could come home for lunch, which is how I managed to breastfeed both kids for nearly a year each, and even when they were weaned, a half hour of cuddling or play before their afternoon nap was something they- and I- looked forward to. Finally, because I had waited till I was a PI before I became a mommy, this meant that my schedule could be quite flexible since I didn’t have to do benchwork- my students knew to reach me by phone if I was at home in the mornings, and lab meetings could happen at home when I was on maternity leave. If a child was sick, Sandip and I could stagger our lunch breaks so that mostly, a parent was at home when the sick child woke up from a nap. In summary, being a PI – mommy meant that even though I was working hard, I could really do it whenever and wherever possible- middle of the night manuscript writing, or handling other departmental duties by email. As an example, in one of my 4AM emails, I came up with the structure for an entirely new course, “Research Methodology” to introduce new students to the nuts and bolts of science, so that they would understand seminars in a wide range of biological topics. This course was largely taught by our senior students and postdocs, and supervised/coordinated by me, and grew to be our most popular introductory course. So I was actually doing multiple things in parallel, quite successfully, and could make the time to be a mommy by prioritizing things properly.<br /><br />We also discovered another positive aspect of life as an academic in India: the supportive mind-set of colleagues and the ability of the system to adapt to issues as they are raised. Just before our first child was born, Sandip and I met a senior, eminent physicist colleague when we were walking home in the evening. He said he had some firm advice for us: that at this juncture in our lives, we should take all the possible leave we were entitled to- and particularly encouraged Sandip to stay at home and enjoy the baby! “These years will never come again, work will keep going on,” he said. My own department willingly excused me from duties that entailed travel (such as our 4-day PhD interview process which used to happen in Bangalore together with that of NCBS), for several years. Outside my Institution too I found that people would accommodate my needs. When I was still nursing my 2 month old infant, I was invited to be on a committee that entailed a meeting in Bangalore, and an interview for the Swarnajayanti fellowship, in Delhi. Though each visit could be done in a day trip (i.e. I didn’t have to take the baby along), there were other problems- restrooms in India don’t have the space or facilities nursing mothers require. So I informed the person in charge that I had just had a baby and would need access to a private room, preferably with an electric outlet, to operate a breast pump (I had to add the detail, because this is just not something one expects others to know- that it is impossible for a nursing mother to hold off nursing or pumping if she is used to providing 3 hourly feeds!). Yes, this took some courage to declare in an email- I didn’t know these people- one being a very senior well respected scientist….but I thought, this is something a professional woman needs so I should simply ask, rather than make excuses and not attend. Reassuringly, both times I was easily accommodated – which told me that though the system may not be particularly set up in terms of regulations and codes and rights, it’s always ok to raise an issue, and a reasonable request is at least considered, if not granted. I like to believe that each time I pushed the envelope, it contributed positively to the system too, making it easier for the next woman scientist by increasing awareness of our presence and needs. India, then, is a place for people- men and women- who want to initiate change, and find fulfillment in being part of this process. <br /><br />After 10 years of joining TIFR, my husband and I we were each able to arrange sabbaticals at Stanford University, a center of excellence in both our fields. We moved with the family, the kids went to school in the US for a year…and we got to see first-hand how mommys and daddys in the US manage the scientist-and-parent jobs. Anyone who pulls this off in the US deserves a medal…no, two or three. My husband and I have had our most productive scientific years after returning to India, and had two children during these years… so I’ll end this story with a grateful acknowledgement of the wonderful support system we have, that draws from modern-day India’s many contrasting faces: a supportive Institution and colleagues, a fantastic child care center, and the two women who don’t get authorship on my papers, but who have nevertheless been an integral part of my success as a scientist, and to my being able to juggle mommydom and lab at the same time: my retired aunt Ushamavashi, and the determined and loyal Rajkumari, an illiterate but forward thinking mother who dreamed of sending her daughters to school. </p>
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<p>I rediscovered that biology could be interesting, well into the second year of my PhD in condensed matter physics at MIT. Visiting my family in Bangalore and finding myself at a loose end one afternoon, I agreed to accompany my mother to watch a public lecture at the National Centre for Biological Sciences. The talk was about anti-retroviral therapy; my mother, a doctor who deals with HIV-positive patients, seemed to follow it well enough. But I have to admit it went right over my head – the last time I had seen any biology at all was in high-school. What did catch my attention was the animated discussion that developed in the corridor just after, which seemed to involve notions of protein structure, binding energetics, and large-scale computer simulations. To my surprise, none of the participants were biologists. When I asked about this, I was told that several people at NCBS came from non-biology backgrounds. My hosts gave me an ultra-fast survey of the current frontiers of biological research, and explained how the volumes of new quantitative biological data were catching the attention of researchers from across many disciplines. I was hooked. Later that year, back at MIT, I joined a biophysics lab and jumped into the deep end of biology. Ten years on, I'm running my own laboratory at NCBS, and enjoying (almost) every minute of it.</p><p>So how did this work? How did I end up back in Bangalore, and find this position at NCBS? Luck, of course, has a large part to play: a lot has to do with accidentally being in the right place, at the right time, surrounded by the right group of people. And to the extent that every academic trajectory is unique, my own unlikely random walk, starting and ending at NCBS, may not be directly relevant to someone else's situation. But there are, perhaps, some general lessons that are worth sharing. <br /><br /><strong>Find the research environment that's right for you</strong>. Even on my first visit, I imagined I would enjoy working at a place like NCBS. What first struck me was its academic openness, and high degree of interaction between different labs. It was small, just the right size, it seemed to me. The scientific infrastructure and the standard of research were of the highest level – taking up a position here would require no compromises. The interdisciplinary makeup of the faculty was important – I certainly did not want to lose touch with my primary training in physics. Once I shifted my PhD toward biological questions, I visited NCBS every time I happened to be in Bangalore. One of the first people I got to know well was G.V. Shivashankar, whose research interests overlapped with my own. Shiva was a great host, I would meet his students and share research updates. He'd keep in touch by email, and introduce me to other colleagues; I also got to know Vijay, the Director, and Jitu Mayor, now the Dean, both of whom were extremely accessible and always ready to answer my questions. It was through Shiva that I first heard about NCBS's 'Young Investigator Programe', which I applied to after finishing my PhD. By the time I applied to the YIP, I had already given two research talks at NCBS over the years. Building up this familiarity was important, it gave me confidence I was making the right choice when I accepted NCBS's job offer. <br /><br /><strong>Choose the right time to start out independently, and build a network of colleagues and mentors.Kanpur</strong>. I had switched fields through my PhD, and was really learning biology as I went along. One of the most difficult decisions I had to make was whether to accept NCBS's Young Investigator offer directly after completing my PhD, or whether to do a postdoc to broaden my exposure and build up my skills in biology before setting out independently. Starting out on your own is risky – things might not work out the way you plan, while doing a postdoc in a great lab is almost certain to be productive. Again, I asked for and received a lot of good advice, and in the end decided to take the plunge. First of all, I knew what I wanted to work on, and I had the outlines of a five-year plan. I could hit the ground running, and ramp up research in a couple of directions which I couldn't pursue while working in someone else's lab. Secondly, through my PhD I had built up a strong academic network. I really had two academic advisors: both my PhD advisor Alexander van Oudenaarden at MIT, as well as another mentor, Boris Shraiman who was at Bell Labs. Working with Boris, I spent time at Bell Labs and at the Kavli Institute for Theoretical Physics in Santa Barbara. All this connected me to a network of researchers from both physics and biology, a network which I now find invaluable. One of the more difficult aspects of working in India is to maintain exposure to research in your field around the world. It requires sustained effort to talk about your work at the right venues to an engaged audience, and to keep in continual touch with colleagues in other countries. And of course, since moving back, I have worked hard at building up a network of colleagues around India. The Young Investigators' Meeting in 2009 was a great opportunity to do this. <br /><br /><strong>Balance the job with other aspects of your life. Bangalore is home</strong>. Most of my family and friends are here. It's a busy and bustling place today, not at all like the city I grew up in. But it's a place where I am comfortable and plugged in. To this day I don't know what choice I would have made if my ideal job were on one continent, but my ideal location on another. As it happens, I was lucky enough not to have to make that choice. Perhaps I would have followed the job. On the other hand, there are tangible benefits to having a social support structure, and in many ways it helps me focus more intensely on my research when I need to. I've also had the opportunity to work outside the scientific core, speaking at schools, working with artists and playwrights to build up public awareness of science, bridging the divide between academia and the 'real world'. It keeps me honest. <br /><br />I've been working at NCBS for five years now. I've come to rely on the support and advice of colleagues, while navigating the obstacles of setting up a new lab. I'm always being forced to do things I was never trained to do, and I pick up skills as I go along. It's been difficult at times, to pick the right problems, to attract the best students, to build a smooth and cohesive research group. Through all this, the science has been exciting, and really drives me from each day to the next.</p>
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                <p>Finding a good postdoc position is important for your career, and doing all or part of your postdoc overseas can be a very rewarding experience. The challenge is that good laboratories receive a large number of postdoctoral applicants, potentially even &gt;30/year just from India and China alone.</p>              ]]></summary><id>tag:indiabioscience.org,2009-10-08:/columns/opinion/the-dos-and-donts-of-finding-a-good-postdoc</id><published>2009-10-08T00:00:00+05:30</published><updated>2019-05-09T21:57:35+05:30</updated><author><name>Ron Vale</name><uri>https://indiabioscience.org/authors/RonVale</uri></author><content type="html"><![CDATA[
                


          
    

<p>Finding a good postdoc position is important for your career and also a challenge. Doing all or part of your postdoc overseas can be a very rewarding experience. The challenge is that good laboratories receive a large number of postdoctoral applicants, potentially even &gt;30/year just from India and China alone. PIaces outside of these countries have relatively little understanding of the quality of the different institutes/universities in India and how to judge applicants. In the US, it is also a greater financial risk to accept foreign postdocs, since they are not eligible for many grants that require US citizenship. Don’t despair - many Indians obviously have found great postdoctoral positions and have done very well. However, you do have to present yourself in the best possible light and distinguish yourself among many applicants. Here are some pieces of advice to help your search.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>DO</strong></p><table><tbody><tr><td>-</td><td>Consult colleagues (faculty or even former students) on good laboratories to which you might apply. </td></tr><tr><td>-</td><td>Start early. I find that many graduate students in India start applications too late, expecting to graduate, apply for postdoctoral positions and then find a good position in a couple of months. Many of the top laboratories are full and only have space in a year. Furthermore, many laboratories (even good ones) might want you to come with funding. The process of writing, applying, and actually receiving money might take 9-12 months in the best of circumstances.<br /><p><br /></p><p>The timing of when to apply can be tricky. You would like to apply early, for the reasons discussed above. However, you also will be in a much stronger position if you have one good paper published or in press. “In press” is certainly sufficient and you can time your submission once your major thesis paper is accepted.</p></td></tr><tr><td>-</td><td>Accompany your application with a strong letter of recommendation from your advisor or other faculty member who is very familiar with your work. This letter should be sent separately from your advisor/faculty but should be received within a few days of your initial inquiry. This is very important and few applicants do this. Don’t expect your target laboratory to ask for letters of recommendations. Take the initiative and have at least one strong letter sent on your behalf . If your advisor/faculty KNOWS the PI to whom you are applying, this will be particularly effective (and a phone call can be even better). A good letter of recommendation might shift a “no” response to at least a “perhaps”, and that gets you in the game for a position in a competitive laboratory.<br /><br />The “rule of thumb” is to list 3 people who can recommend you at the end of your CV, with their emails and phone numbers. As described above, I would recommend that at least one person (usually your advisor) sends their letter to the labs to which you are applying. You can have all three letters sent immediately, but if the postdoc advisor sees one strong letter upfront, then he/she may contact the other recommenders on their own or ask you to send more letters of recommendation. One strong letter also makes a better initial impression than 1 strong letter + 2 short/non-descript letters from people who do not know you well or are unwilling to put in time into your letter of recommendation. If you are planning to send one letter sent to the postdoc PI, you should state this in your email introduction and that “additional letters of recommendation will be forwarded upon request”.</td></tr><tr><td>-</td><td>Get to know faculty other than your graduate student advisor. This could be a collaborator, faculty on your thesis committee or other faculty at your institute. This takes some effort to foster a relationship so that a faculty member really knows you and your work. Also, it can be difficult to get time with busy faculty members, but it is worth the effort. As discussed above, a future postdoc advisor will usually ask for more than one letter of recommendation before making their ultimate decision. Postdoctoral fellowships also often require 3 letters of recommendation. One strong letter is most important. But one strong letter + 2 additional excellent and detailed supporting letters increase your chance of landing your desired postdoc position and money to go with it.</td></tr><tr><td>-</td><td>Write a well-crafted and specific email. Research the lab and indicate what things about that particular lab interest you and why you wish to work there. You do not want your email to sound like a “generic, mass email” (see Don’ts below). DO have your advisor or other senior mentor review and revise your email introduction and your CV for content, presentation style and English grammar.</td></tr><tr><td>-</td><td>Spend time thinking about your postdoc field and specific labs. Read papers, discuss ideas with faculty and fellow students. See if you can learn anything through the grapevine about the reputation and atmosphere of the lab. If you get connected with and can call or email current or former postdocs from the lab, this might be helpful.</td></tr><tr><td>-</td><td>If funds are available, attend and present your work at an international meeting. This can be a good time to learn about laboratories and fields of research as well as introduce yourself to scientists who you might consider for postdoctoral work.</td></tr></tbody></table><p><strong>Don’t</strong><br /></p><table><tbody><tr><td>-</td><td>Address your email as “Dear Sir” but rather as “Dear Professor Smith”. Dear “Sir” is polite, but it sounds like a desperate, massive email mailing sent to 100 laboratories. Many good labs will immediately ignore it and not read on.</td></tr><tr><td>-</td><td>List a bunch of technical skills that you can do, especially if they are trivial like PCR, Western blotting, in situ hybridization. This sounds like a job for a technician, not a serious postdoc. You also probably do not want to work in a lab that is attracted to you because they want to treat you like a technician. You can mention special skills that you have briefly, but rather emphasize your intellectual interests and future goals.</td></tr><tr><td>-</td><td>Give up after not hearing back after one email. If there is a special laboratory that you are keen on, I would recommend 1) sending a hard copy letter and print out of your papers, and 2) following up ~3 weeks later with a second email. All investigators get a billion emails these days and it is very easy for any single email to get lost in their massive in box. You do not want to be annoying, but sending a polite second email saying that you are resending in case they did not see the first one and that you are “particularly interested” in their lab and looking forward to hearing from them is okay.</td></tr><tr><td>-</td><td>Accept a postdoctoral position without first visiting the lab. This is my opinion since there is a possibility that it could be a terrible mismatch and make you unhappy. I always interview postdocs before accepting them. Some laboratories might accept you with a phone interview or just from looking at your CV (I would be most wary of this). If you are accepted without a personal interview, I would still recommend that you request a visit to the lab. You might gently ask if the laboratory could fund or split the cost of visit so that you could discuss projects and meet people in the lab. If they say “no” to even partial reimbursement (which would make me a bit worried), then I would still see if you can scrape together funds for a discount flight and make the trip. </td></tr></tbody></table><table><tbody><tr><td>-</td><td>Worry about finding the “perfect” field or the “hottest” field for doing your postdoc. Fortunately, there are many wonderful areas to research in biology. Also, what you think is hot today, may not be so tomorrow. Rather, find subjects that truly motivate you. Being motivated is the single most important factor for increasing your chance of success. If you are interested in a couple of very different fields, no worries - apply to labs in both fields. The application process and interviews (if you get them) might help you in your decision.</td></tr></tbody></table>
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